Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC830713); site epistemi.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!ukc!cstvax!epistemi!robert From: robert@epistemi.UUCP (Robert Inder) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: definition of AI Message-ID: <399@epistemi.UUCP> Date: Mon, 6-Jan-86 14:20:06 EST Article-I.D.: epistemi.399 Posted: Mon Jan 6 14:20:06 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Jan-86 06:04:56 EST References: <33103@lanl.ARPA> <289@quest.UUCP> <2555@sunybcs.UUCP> <606@kitty.UUCP> <409@tekchips.UUCP> <2401@flame.warwick.UUCP> Reply-To: robert@epistemi.UUCP (Robert Inder) Organization: Epistemics, Edinburgh U., Scotland Lines: 30 Xpath: ukc eagle In article <2401@flame.warwick.UUCP> kay@flame.UUCP (Kay Dekker) replies to Wm. Leler's suggestion that "A side benefit of AI is that it helps us learn how intelligences solve these problems, and thus how natural intelligence works", saying: >I'm not sure that this reasoning is totally sound. Sure, we may find >*solutions* to problems, but I don't see that because we produce models >that fit experimental evidence, the models will *necessarily* help us to >understand how the problems are solved "in the flesh". Just because I have >two black boxes that produce the same combinations of outputs for the same >combinations of inputs (for example) doesn't permit me to reason "They >behave identically from the outside, therefore their interior natures are >similar." The emphasised "necessarily" is crucial here. Certainly getting "models that fit experimental evidence" does not mean we KNOW (absolutely, for sure) that the model is behaving in the same way as the original. However, as the early chapters of Chomsky's "Rules and Representations" are basically arguing, this is true, but uninterestitng. Every theory is underdetermined by evidence, and science is always a matter of believing (working with) the best model that you have got. If the model does fit the available evidence better than any other account, then (meta-theoretical considerations being equal) it deserves consideration as an account of how the "real" system behaves. Robert Inder. University of Edinburgh, Centre for Cognitive Science, 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh, EH8 9LW, Scotland. ...!ukc!cstvax!epistemi!robert I wish I could come up with a good signature...