Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mtx5a.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!akguc!mtunh!mtung!mtx5c!mtx5d!mtx5a!mat From: mat@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Re: Less Is More? Message-ID: <1183@mtx5a.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Jan-86 00:04:00 EST Article-I.D.: mtx5a.1183 Posted: Tue Jan 14 00:04:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Jan-86 04:42:47 EST References: <25300019@gypsy.UUCP> <1679@ihuxl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801. Lines: 39 > > 1. If the engine is running at 2500 RPM, what difference does it > > make what gear I'm in or how fast the car is moving? > > If you had a boost gauge you could tell that at 70 mph, the engine is > working harder that it was at 30, even if the engine RPM's were equal. > After you pass ~40 mph, wind resistance becomes important, and at higher > speeds it the major resistance to overcome. It's like going downhill > in gear (high vacuum) and then going up a steep hill (low vacuum) at > the same revs. You're going to burn more fuel to get up the hill. > > > 2. If Toyota says that going faster saves fuel, and the U.S. Gov't. > > says that going slower saves fuel, who is right? > > No matter what kind of car it is, your fuel consumption increases with > speed. Depending on the aerodynamic drag of the car, the rate of > increase differs. Since an Audi 5000 has less drag than a Chevy > van, it could go much faster with same amount of fuel consumption. This assumes that in neither case is the engine being operated in an inefficient part of its speed/torque range. The problem is just NOT all that simple. After all, with a manual transmission, you CAN get better fuel economy in many cars by accelerating with about 2/3 of the throttle, and upshifting as soon as possible. BUT with all manufacturers building cars for the CAFE requirements and testing at 50-55 MPH, most cars will have their fuel economy ``knee'' pushed up into the 50-55 MPH range, and pushing that knee on the curve will probably make the drop-off steeper afterwards. Because the CAFE requirements average all cars sold by a manufacturer, less-widely sold lines can be built to be way off average. This includes 'vettes, of course. -- from Mole End Mark Terribile (scrape .. dig ) mtx5b!mat (Please mail to mtx5b!mat, NOT mtx5a! mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat) ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.