Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site bonnie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!saf From: saf@bonnie.UUCP (Steve Falco) Newsgroups: net.auto.tech Subject: Re: Maintenance-Free Batteries Message-ID: <694@bonnie.UUCP> Date: Sun, 19-Jan-86 12:12:04 EST Article-I.D.: bonnie.694 Posted: Sun Jan 19 12:12:04 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 20-Jan-86 05:43:06 EST References: <216@hropus.UUCP> <128@linus.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany NJ Lines: 43 > Is there > any harm in pumping 2 amps or so into a fully charged battery for a few > hours? If all it does is generate heat, it could possibly help by raising > the temperature of the battery a few degrees. Or am I boiling off or > electrolysing some of the water? I think this amount of excess current on a regular basis would be harmful. Fortunately, there is a way to check! Globe-Union puts out a flyer on their gel-type lead-acid batteries - it should be applicable to conventional batteries as well. They recommend 2 charging methods. Method 1 - used with discharged batteries. Limit the current to 3 or 4 times the 20 hour discharge rate. For example, if the battery is good for 100 A-hr, the 20 hour rate would be about 5 amps and charging current should be held to 15 to 20 amps. NOTE: I don't know what the amp-hour rating of your battery is - I used 100 just for illustration. When using this method, you charge the battery until the voltage reaches 2.4v per cell (14.4v for a 12v car) and HOLD that voltage until the current drops to about 1/5th of the 20 hour rate (1 amp in the above example) then STOP or drop the voltage to between 2.25 and 2.3v per cell (13.8v). But the key is: hold the voltage. Many cheap chargers won't do this because they have no voltage regulators - the voltage can easily rise to 16v or more. Normally, the lack of a regulator doesn't matter because the charger is used infrequently - and only on a fairly dead battery. This is of course why your car has a voltage regulator - to prevent frying the battery during continuous/long-term operation. Method 2 - used to maintain a charged battery. HOLD the voltage across the battery to between 2.25 and 2.3v per cell (13.8v). The battery will automatically pull the correct amount of current to maintain full charge. Once again, most chargers won't do this. I mentioned above that there is a way to check whether the 2 amps is harmful. Simply check the voltage across the battery when you stop charging. If the voltage is much higher than 14v, you are probably dumping too much into the battery. A final note. This is temperature dependent - a cold battery will tolerate more voltage than a hot one. I can't lay my hands on a table at the moment - check a good automotive book. Steve Falco