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From: guzman@ttidcb.UUCP (Marc Guzman)
Newsgroups: net.auto.tech
Subject: Re: still shaking when cold
Message-ID: <646@ttidcb.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 23-Jan-86 17:02:50 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 23 17:02:50 1986
Date-Received: Sat, 25-Jan-86 08:31:32 EST
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Reply-To: guzman@ttidcb.UUCP (Marc Guzman)
Organization: Transaction Technology, Inc. (CitiCorp), Santa Monica
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Summary: 

>> a problem I have been having with my l985 Tercel. I have
>> found that if I depress the gas pedal (when the car is
>> cold, i.e. left outside over night) the car will start
>> rough idling - it will start but after 10-15 seconds will
>> start to shake. The shaking lasts 1-3 minutes. At the end
>
>      I have the exact same problem with my '79 VW Rabbit.
>      Any suggestions or info?
>
>      ihnp4!philabs!ams


	My '79 Plymouth Champ suffered such similar symptoms twice.
The first time it was the exhaust gas recirculation valve (EGR) that
openning too soon and dumping relatively unburnable exhust back into
the cylinders, which leaned the air/fuel mixture, causing the engine
to stumble until warm. A nasty side effect was the car would buck and
surge something terrible. ( bruises and whiplash :-) )
The second time was something the opposite, the choke was not openning
fast enough, enriching the mixture, and causing a rough idle. However
it was accompanied with smelling black exhaust.
	Maybe this will help.
				Marc A. Guzman