Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site ctvax Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!ctvax!kerry From: kerry@ctvax Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Smoking in flight. Message-ID: <33200010@ctvax> Date: Wed, 8-Jan-86 11:39:00 EST Article-I.D.: ctvax.33200010 Posted: Wed Jan 8 11:39:00 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Jan-86 02:26:36 EST References: <359@weitek.UUCP> Lines: 21 Nf-ID: #R:weitek.UUCP:359:ctvax:33200010:000:1170 Nf-From: ctvax!kerry Jan 8 10:39:00 1986 Yes, it is true. Some fighters do have ashtrays, usually located just behind the pilot's right elbow on the side of the console. I flew missions on a KC-135 (similar to a 707), where ashtrays were coke cans with one end opened, hanging from wire attached to the inside of the aircraft. These ash cans were located every 4 feet or so. I was a radical non-smoker and only a junior officer, so I suffered from cigarette smoke occasionally. Every time I thought about those cans, and the lighted butts, I became just a little uncomfortable. You see, if you don't already know, a KC-135 is used to refuel other aircraft in flight and carries ~30,000 gallons of JP-4 jet fuel housed in special compartments below the cargo area (where the ash cans are). Not only do jet pilots smoke in flight, while at Undergraduate Pilot Training, I heard of a young T-38 (a T-38 is a high-performance jet trainer) pilot who crashed mysteriously at the approach end of the runway. On probing the wreckage, they found a Kentucky Fried Chicken box and later discovered that chicken bones had lodged in the pilot's throat, causing him to choke and lose control of the aircraft. ctvax!kerry