Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site r2d2.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!nbires!r2d2!ron From: ron@r2d2.UUCP (Ron Schweikert) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Reduced hours for IFR ticket Message-ID: <128@r2d2.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-Jan-86 13:22:25 EST Article-I.D.: r2d2.128 Posted: Fri Jan 17 13:22:25 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jan-86 15:00:38 EST References: <1737@cae780.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: NBI Inc., SOSC Boulder Co Lines: 52 > The FAA reduced the number of hours required to get an IFR ticket > from 200 to 125 - do any of you CFIIs have any comments on this ? As a CFII who has done a lot of instrument work and trained others, this new regulation (like all) can be good if not abused. I took my first solo IMC flight to pick up some friends stranded by weather while the ink on my instrument ticket was still wet. The flight though bumpy went fine. I have to admit the anxiety level of actual IFR solo was a bit intense the first time. I don't see any problem with this reg IF YOU CAN REMAIN LOGICALLY CURRENT. By that I don't mean your six approaches/hours/month stuff. Unfortunately for some of these new grads, I fear that their overall experience level may not prepare them for situations which instructors cannot possibly cover. Of course if you spent 250 hours (or 1000) in "severe clear" taking friends to a local restaurant for lunch etc., then the number of hours you have is moot. The key is your actual experience level. The best instructors are those that teach their students to be pilots, not airplane drivers. They must impart to their students that they now have a license to learn. Teach a student pilot aerodynamics, judgement, common sense and the belief that he doesn't know it all yet, and I believe you probably could have a safe 125 hr. IFR pilot. Set realistic personal minimums while you learn and you should do okay. My first few flights in IMC I set minimums of 600-1000 ft ceiling with 3 miles visibility. Still got a lot of actual. As I became more comfortable (and conditions warranted) I began to lower (slowly) personal minimums. (Note: These minimums were IMMEDIATELY after finishing my instrument training. If you're a bit rusty, definately increase these!). To new IFR students, "Don't kid yourself". Nailing an approach to minimums with a hood on and another person in the other seat is (to me) easier than doing it solo in actual conditions. You can't cheat! The pucker-factor is definately real! But don't let that stop you. In one instance, it is a bit easier. You can relax more, sit up straight and fly like you usually do rather than hunched over with a hood and having an instructor critique your every move. As you do it more, you WILL become more comfortable with it. And as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing more satisfying than a long cross-country flight in the sunshine, on top of a solid cloud deck followed by an approach where those beautiful runway environment lights appear out of the haze right as you approach minimums. What a feeling of accomplishment. Study hard, concentrate, learn from others, then go out and do it. You'll love it! Ron Schweikert (My apologies for posting, rather than replying by mail. I hoped this would apply to other students reading also. In addition, it is long because I feel this is an important topic not to be taken lightly or misunderstood.) Happy Flying! -- ...{allegra|hao|ucbvax}nbires!r2d2!ron (USENET)