Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site masscomp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!masscomp!ahv From: ahv@masscomp.UUCP (Tony Verhulst) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: spoilers/airbrakes Message-ID: <870@masscomp.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-Jan-86 14:12:24 EST Article-I.D.: masscomp.870 Posted: Fri Jan 24 14:12:24 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Jan-86 04:01:24 EST References: <5@petrus.UUCP> Reply-To: ahv@masscomp.UUCP (Tony Verhulst) Distribution: net Organization: Masscomp - Westford, MA Lines: 79 Summary: In article <5@petrus.UUCP> daniel@petrus.UUCP (Daniel W. Nachbar) writes: >An engineering question -- >Most gliders have spoilers. Most simple singles do not. >Is there any good reason for the difference? >Dan Nachbar >BELLCORE -- Morristown, NJ >bellcore!daniel The FAA claims thet the primary purpose of flaps is to increase the rate of descent without increasing airspeed. Although this certainly is true, most of use use flaps because using them on landing lowers the nose (providing a better view of the runway) and because they lower the touch touch down speed. Spoilers increase the rate of descent. Period. Sail planes don't need flaps because final approach speed is considerably higher than cruise speed (weird ain't it?) so the nose is already low enough to provide good visibility of the runway. Also, the landing speed of most sailplanes is in the 40mph ball park so the lower touch down speeed that flaps provide is not that crucial. Note that Mooney is offering spoilers as an option on some of their singles. It seems that Mooneys are so clean (parasitic drag wise) that their descent rate wasn't high enough to satisfy air traffic controllers. Those poor Mooney pilots were going too fast to use flaps (enroute descents) and couldn't throttle back any further without cooling their engines too much and were still being requested to increase their rate of descent. Now, with the spoilers, the Mooney pilot can throttle back and fall out of the sky with the rest of us. OK, so much for the background. The reason that sailplanes have spoilers and airplanes don't is because airplanes have throttles and sailplanes don't. In an airplane, you control your descent on final with the throttle. If you are too low on the approach you add power, if you are too high you decrease power. This is tough to do in a sailplane. What you do instead is to initiate the approach a little high and add a some spoiler. If you find yourself under shooting the approach, remove some spoiler. If too high on the approach, just increase the amount of spoiler. So, basically, on final approach the spoiler does for the sailplane that the throttle does for the airplane. Incidentally, besides flying airplanes and sailplanes I also fly hang gliders (11 years). For several years I have been pushing for spoilers on hang gliders. Hang glider performance has increased tremendously over the years. Here in the northeast, a typical hang gliding landing area is the parking lot of a ski resort surrounded by 70 foot oak trees. Naturally a parking lot in the woods on a sunny day is a great thermal generator and the turbulence .... well never mind, it's too painful. It's easy to come over the parking lot at tree top level and get a REAL good look at the trees on the other side before you land. Some fancy low level turning occurs to stay within the boundaries of the parking lot (a good glide angle has SOME disadvantages). Spoiler in this situation could make the difference between an uneventful landing and parking it in the top of a tree. We claim that if a New England hang glider pilot has never landed in a tree, he hasn't been flying long enough. Iv'e been flying long enough to land in three trees. A tree landing is not a bad as it sounds. Basically, once you know that you can't reach an open clearing and commit to the tree landing, you find a bushy tree (Lord spare me from the pointy dead pine trees) and stall the glider (15-16mph) just ever so slightly above the tree. The glider will settle in the tree (getting it out bill be discussed in the next chapter) and you just climb out of the tree. Out of the dozens of tree landings I have heard about and seen, I know of only one injury. Al Mulazi (connecticut) broke his wrist while climbing out of a tree he had landed in. Wow, I started of by answering Dan's spoiler question and kind of went off on a tangent. yours in good flying, Tony Verhulst treasurer; Windward Kite & Gliding Club Private pilot - ASEL student - sailplane (35 flights)