Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 5/22/85; site cbosgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!mark From: mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) Newsgroups: net.invest,net.consumers Subject: Re: Re: "No Money Down" (Other People's Money) Scam Message-ID: <1740@cbosgd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 23:15:35 EST Article-I.D.: cbosgd.1740 Posted: Tue Jan 7 23:15:35 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 8-Jan-86 06:26:56 EST References: <587@cylixd.UUCP> <312@3comvax.UUCP> <1725@cbosgd.UUCP> <748@wang.UUCP> <2491@amdahl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Oh Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.invest:999 net.consumers:3779 In article <2491@amdahl.UUCP> muth@amdahl.UUCP (John A. Muth) writes: >> > Oh yes, he figures on financing the house at 90% of the appraised value >> > But he just bought the house for $150,000, and the house >> > is going to have to be appraised for the loan, and if it just sold for >> > $150,000, the appraisal isn't likely to be for $200,000. >> >> Not true, $150K was the discounted cash price. It could still be be >> appraised for $200K. > >Only if you can find an incompetent or dishonest appraiser. I talked this over with my wife, who saw the whole show and remembers more details than I. Apparently the advocate of this plan is making the assumption that the house has ALREADY been appraised for $200,000. (This limits your choices - how many people get their house officially appraised before they go to sell it?) Once you have an appraisal in hand, I think it's good for some period of time. For example, we went to refinance our house about a year ago. We started the paperwork in January, figuring it would take a month or two and that interest rates would go down. We paid our $130 and the house was appraised. Rates didn't go down, and the deal fell through. Then, last June, we decided to go again (rates finally dropped) but, due to a quirk of the system, the FHA appraisal was good for 6 months, and we HAD NO CHOICE but to reuse the appraisal. (We had to get it officially assigned to the new mortgage company, which was different from the first try.) We had actually made some improvements to the house since then, so it might have appraised for more, but this limited the amount we could refinance. I'm not sure if these rules still apply for non-FHA financing, or if the person applying for the loan isn't the same owner who had the original appraisal done. Or maybe the advocate has the appraisal done before he makes the offer for 75% of the appraised value? Mark