Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihwpt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihwpt!olaf From: olaf@ihwpt.UUCP (olaf henjum) Newsgroups: net.invest,net.consumers Subject: Re: Re: "No Money Down" (Other People's Money) Scam Message-ID: <633@ihwpt.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-Jan-86 15:58:56 EST Article-I.D.: ihwpt.633 Posted: Sun Jan 12 15:58:56 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 13-Jan-86 04:49:45 EST References: <587@cylixd.UUCP> <312@3comvax.UUCP> <1725@cbosgd.UUCP> <748@wang.UUCP> <2491@amdahl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.invest:1019 net.consumers:3841 I've been following this debate with some interest simply because I know of at least one case where it was actually done, but the person involved encountered practically all of the problems that have come up in this discussion -- except one: It really is possible to get 200+ VISA cards at once. The key phrase is "at once"; the person I'm thinking of had practically no credit record to speak of but did live in the L.A. area (where there are a lot of banks). He had some store charge cards before his "blitz" but that was it. What he did was collect applications from every bank he could find in the L.A. area, fill them out, and mail them in AT THE SAME TIME! Out of 1047 applications, 207 were approved; after that point, the time delay had grown to a couple of weeks and the remaining banks had started to notice this person's massive and sudden acquisition of VISA cards. Yes, it takes a long time to fill out that many applications; the only reason the person had time to do it (and it took a few months to prepare all of this) was because he was a high school student. In any event, that's how he got his start in real estate, at the age of 16. I hope you'll forgive me for not disclosing his name; he's in enough trouble already. (The plan fell through when the interest charges started to pile up and I suspect this young man will have to declare bankruptcy -- if the banks involved ever catch up to the fact that he's using the cards to pay off each other.) Fortunately for the electronic banking community, this young man apparently has no interest in becoming a "password hacker." -- Olaf Henjum (ihnp4!ihesa!olaf) "... the students then were sour grapes, today you're cream and peaches. Conditioned by the status quo, you shun the iconoclastic; just like the minds we help to mold -- the world is made of plastic." -- from the Stanford Daily comic strip "Gradepoint," run as a "Poetry of the Absurd" feature