Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site birtch.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!scgvaxd!felix!birtch!oleg From: oleg@birtch.UUCP (Oleg Kiselev) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Call for action on an Alternative to the Nuclear Dilemma Message-ID: <247@birtch.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 17:05:01 EST Article-I.D.: birtch.247 Posted: Tue Jan 7 17:05:01 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Jan-86 07:06:44 EST References: <1957@orca.UUCP> <1928@psuvax1.UUCP> <320@tekigm2.UUCP> <8221@ucla-cs.ARPA> <316@fear.UUCP> Reply-To: oleg@birtch.UUCP (Oleg Kiselev) Distribution: net Organization: The Real Estate Conspiracy Lines: 33 In article <316@fear.UUCP> robert@fear.UUCP (Robert Plamondon) writes: >In article <1251@sdcsvax.UUCP> jc@sdcsvax.UUCP (John Cornelius) writes: >>In the 200 years or so that this country has been engaged in international >>politics we have been in a fair number of wars.... >> ... The Russian Empire has been >>invloved in only 3 or 4 of those and in all cases they have been our ally, not >>our enemy. > >Nice try. > >The Napoleonic Wars, The Russo-Japanese War, WWI, The Russian >Revolution, WWII, various invasions of rebellious Eastern European >countries, Afghanistan...sounds like more than "3 or 4" to me, bunky, >and they were only allied with us in any meaningful sense in WWII, >since the Czar abdicated about the time of the US entry in WWI. Allow me to add a few : War with Finland, conquest of Poland, 2 invasion into France, war with Japan over China in the late 1930's( before WWII), conquest of what now are Asian republics of USSR, reclaiming the pieces of the Russian Empire after the communist revolution (against the desires of the local population). Plus : invasion of Hungary, Chechoslovakia, almost invasion of Poland, participation in wars in Vietnam, Campuchia, Laos, Cuba, Angola, Nicaragua, S. Yemen (sp?), Arab-Israeli wars (direct aid in military personel, advisors and technology to Egypt up to early '70s) No, US is not what one could call a pacifist country. Neither is USSR. -- Disclamer: I don't work here anymore - so they are not responsible for me. +-------------------------------+ Don't bother, I'll find the door! | STAY ALERT! TRUST NO ONE! | Oleg Kiselev. | KEEP YOUR LASER HANDY! |...!{trwrb|scgvaxd}!felix!birtch!oleg --------------------------------+...!{ihnp4|randvax}!ucla-cs!uclapic!oac6!oleg