Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site terak.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!noao!terak!suze From: suze@terak.UUCP (Suzanne Barnett) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: educational toys that inspired you... Message-ID: <975@terak.UUCP> Date: Thu, 9-Jan-86 11:20:36 EST Article-I.D.: terak.975 Posted: Thu Jan 9 11:20:36 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 14-Jan-86 04:09:17 EST References: <1330@mhuxt.UUCP> Organization: Calcomp Display Products Division, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 86 > Once again my wife and I have supplied our nieces (ages 6 and 8) with lenses, > tools, prisms, and the like and one again we have been told by other > relatives that we should stick to more traditional toys (Cabbage Patch dolls > and other very sex-rolled objects). Based on an admittedly small sampling > it seems like many people who have ended up in technical work remember > wonderful mechanical toys, puzzles, and the like. I would like to hear > comments (particularly from women) on toys that "made a difference." My > wife fondly remembers a small microscope, old clocks (junkers to play with) > and tools. I built telescopes and model airplanes. What did you do? What > are kids doing today? > > send me mail and I'll post a summary... > > Steve Crandall > mhuxt!evans I always liked the simple toys best: jacks, marbles, slinkies, dolls, toy handguns (western style), jigsaw puzzles, books, doctor & nurse kits, "little people" (tiny plastic, wooden and/or porcelin figures of people & animals), legos, lincoln logs, etc. I wanted something on which I could loose my imagination. I don't care much for the "stickers" that are currently popular, and though I think Cabbage Patch dolls aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread, they are a good doll for children in that they are soft (comfortable), a good size for playing, and have a large wardrobe available (its educational from the standpoints of developing a child's dexterity by dressing/undressing the doll and also of invoking the child's imagination). I don't think that toys previous generations viewed as sex roled need be. For example, my 7 year old stepson is extremely fond of stuffed animals, and will happily sit down to a doll tea party with his sisters. He is equally delighted to play with a race cars, trucks, toy guns, trains and other typically "boy" toys. My stepdaughters are the same. In fact, I think Robyn enjoyed my Christmas gift to John, race cars, better than he did. The best toy to get for a child depends on the child's age and likes. Two ten year old girls will not appreciate the same thing equally: one might prefer a book, while the other would prefer a puzzle. You have to consider the child's individual personality, the types of things he enjoys and doesn't care for. If you aren't well acquainted with the child, I think the toys, games and books that have been around for years and years are probably the best choice, simply because thousands of children have had the chance to try them and have liked them enough that they continue in existance (if they weren't liked, they wouldn't sell, and the toy companies would quit making them). I think the toys you mentioned as getting for your nieces sound like fun. You say you were critisized by other relatives; was it because the children didn't play with the things you gave them? Or, was it because they were something the parents didn't want the child to have, either from a safety or a "we don't want to raise our children this way" standpoint? If the relatives who critisized are not the parents, I would ignore their remarks and continue as you have, if the children seem to enjoy your gifts to them. If the children don't, you may want to reconsider your gift choices. I don't believe anyone other than the parents have a right to object to the gifts you choose. For example, many people do not look with favor on toy guns, believing it encourages violence, or at least tolerance of violence. If the parents believe this, you shouldn't get their children toy guns, or the like. Some parents may prefer to raise their children is strictly stereotyped roles, I don't think this is too likely to work as they intend, but they do have a right to rear their children as they choose. There are a lot of toys that are traditionally for both boys and girls, paints, clay, books, board games, etc. These might be happier choices for all concerned if the parents don't want their daughters to play with "boy" toys. -- Suzanne Barnett-Scott uucp: ...{decvax,ihnp4,noao,savax,seismo}!terak!suze CalComp/Sanders Display Products Division 14151 N 76th Street, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 (602) 998-4800