Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!minow From: minow@decvax.UUCP (Martin Minow) Newsgroups: net.med,net.consumers,net.politics Subject: Re: The Hidden Costs of Smoking Message-ID: <164@decvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-Jan-86 19:07:04 EST Article-I.D.: decvax.164 Posted: Mon Jan 20 19:07:04 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 22-Jan-86 05:15:39 EST References: <162@decvax.UUCP> <1970@psuvax1.UUCP> Reply-To: minow@decvax.UUCP (Martin minow) Organization: DEC - ULTRIX Engineering Group Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.med:3204 net.consumers:3960 net.politics:13080 Responding to my note on the economic costs of smoking, Piotr Berman points out correctly that smokers who die in middle age will have paid into their retirement funds, but will not collect from them. I was remiss in not quoting the following from the Wellness Letter article: Of course, the smoking habit is not likely to vanish overnight. Even if it did, it would take a few years for the economic benefits to start accruing. *Not* smoking might create some economic problems, too; the OTA report points out that people who now die in middle age would live to collect their social security benefits. On the other hand, these people would be productive longer. He also suggests that the "other real losses, such as those from cigarrete-caused fires, which kill 1,500 people yearly" (q. Wellness Letter) "are not included because apparently they are trivial." (q. Berman) If we arbitrarily set the value of life at $100,000, the 1,500 deaths alone cause $150 million in losses. While this may be trivial in relation to the $39 to $96 billion in total costs, its a tidy sum in itself. Quoting from the Wellness Letter: In the end, the benefits enjoyed by a nonsmoking nation can hardly be calculated in dollars. What matters more for most of us are the profits and losses logged up in the health column, which are unarguable. Martin Minow decvax!minow