Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!mhuxt!mhuxr!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!cmcl2!philabs!aecom!werner From: werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) Newsgroups: net.med,net.consumers,net.politics Subject: Re: Re: The Hidden Costs of Smoking Message-ID: <2210@aecom.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-Jan-86 23:21:36 EST Article-I.D.: aecom.2210 Posted: Mon Jan 20 23:21:36 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Jan-86 20:36:11 EST References: <162@decvax.UUCP> <1970@psuvax1.UUCP> Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 27 Xref: watmath net.med:3212 net.consumers:3977 net.politics:13093 > > Technology Assessment. The report estimated that "the annual medical > > bill for lung cancer, coronary heart disease, and other ailments > > directly attributable to smoking runs between $12 billion and $35 > > billion annually." > > > On the other hand, the retirement funds and social security may save > a bundle. > --- Piotr Berman Of course the oft-repeated comment of Berman's contains an essential fallacy. Most deaths by smoking are not quick. They are slow, painful, and Very Very Expensive. And Social Security and Medicare (the health insurance for the Elderly) come from the same trust fund. Similarly, most retirement funds also cover some form of health insurance. Hence, no "bundle" is saved, it is just transferred from one column of the payout to another. Moreover, health care is far more expensive than health, which is why most insurers will cut you a deal if you don't smoke or quit. Still, I don't think appealing to anyone's sense of the public good will connvince anyone to stop smoking. They have to be convinced that it is in their best interest to quit. Unfortunately, too many people don't quit until after they are already coughing up blood. -- Craig Werner !philabs!aecom!werner "... you can do anything you want, but not everything you want."