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From: bruceb@amiga.UUCP (Bruce Barrett)
Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga
Subject: Re: Spoken Bell And Memory/Disk Space
Message-ID: <504@amiga.amiga.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 9-Jan-86 15:19:31 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan  9 15:19:31 1986
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References: <922@caip.RUTGERS.EDU> <139@atux01.UUCP>
Reply-To: bruceb@hunter.UUCP (Bruce Barrett)
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In article <139@atux01.UUCP> perry@atux01.UUCP (P. Kivolowitz) writes:
>To the people putting spoken bells and the  like into their
>terminal emulators...

 ... lots of good points... (and this is not a flame)

>Ask your self the question: Is saying  Beep! worth the five
>or ten kbytes of overhead  (in  addition to possibly inter-
>fering with  other  programs doing sound at the same time).

 (Lucky me! I have a Sun AND an Amiga on my desk so I can
  check these figures in "real time".)

The V1.1 Translator (probably not needed for spoken bells)
is 10.5k (10592bytes) long.  The Narrator is 23k (23280bytes)
long.  (These are disk sizes, not RAM, but should be close 
enough for this discussion.)  So we aren't even talking about 
5-10k but more like 23-30k!  

Let's see 80x25=2k so if you allowed some form of backward 
scrolling this would cost you 10 full pages of history.

The other "expense" is loading it from disk in the first place,
this takes time too.

>To sum up: yeah it's  a neat  idea but  does it belong in a
>product?

Maybe, maybe not.  I vote that if it goes in that:
	1. there is some option to disable it
	2. might as well make what it says an option.
	3. if speech is being used by some other task you do not
	hold up the terminal emulator by waiting to say something.


--Bruce Barrett