Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!lll-crg!qantel!hplabs!hao!noao!terak!mot!anasazi!john From: john@anasazi.UUCP (John Moore) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari Subject: Re: Unix without an MMU Message-ID: <475@anasazi.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Jan-86 09:24:33 EST Article-I.D.: anasazi.475 Posted: Tue Jan 14 09:24:33 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Jan-86 04:08:41 EST References: <8601071721.AA03900@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> <11372@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <520@enmasse.UUCP> Reply-To: john@anasazi.UUCP (John Moore) Organization: Anasazi, Phoenix Az. Lines: 28 >(and VENIX, Xenix, ...) on IBM PCs doesn't really count as secure. >(Ergo it's not UNIX.) Processes can mangle each other at will. ^^^ ^^^^ Nonsense! It works find as UNIX. It is true that it is not hacker protected, but most single computer UNIX's have only one user anyway. To me UNIX is a portable environment offering a wide selection of nifty tools. That's just what I have here on my VENIX. > >In short, it's not really UNIX there, and it pretty much DOES have an >MMU. Better than nothing, but I wouldn't buy it. UNIX needs at LEAST >memory mapping. This can be real cheap! but the 520ST doesn't have it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You just haven't shown this. The extreme purist view that PC UNIX's aren't really UNIX doesn't wash. On the other hand, there is no denying the value of memory mapping > >-- >David Brownell >EnMasse Computer Corp >...!{harvard,talcott,genrad}!enmasse!dave -- John Moore (NJ7E/XE1HDO) {decvax|ihnp4|hao}!noao!terak!anasazi!john {hao!noao|decvax|ihnp4|seismo}!terak!anasazi!john terak!anasazi!john@SEISMO.CSS.GOV (602) 952-8205 (day or evening) 5302 E. Lafayette Blvd, Phoenix, Az, 85018 (home address)