Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site well.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!well!bmug From: bmug@well.UUCP (Frederick A. Huxham) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Only 391K in disk? Message-ID: <486@well.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Jan-86 03:44:26 EST Article-I.D.: well.486 Posted: Tue Jan 14 03:44:26 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 15-Jan-86 01:38:24 EST Organization: Whole Earth Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 23 Keywords: 1000 bytes vs. 1024 Someone recently posted something about formatting floppys with Finder 5.* and coming up with only 391K in disk? They were somewhat upset. No need to worry, the reason you (seem to) lose 9K on every disk is that Apple used to count 1K as 1000 bytes. Unfortunately, 1K = 1024 bytes. They figured it out by the time they got to Finder 5.* so now when it adds up how much space you have on disk it comes up with a slightly smaller number. Also, for the people that have copied black holes into their HD20's, there are 2 programs floating around called HD Diag, and Scavenger Mac which are HD utilities. The programs seem to allow you to format individual tracks, zero and initialize the disk, recover lost files and a zillion other things. I don't have an HD20 so I can only boot them up and read the menus, I'm not absolutely sure what the applications do, but they seem like they might be what you want. They're Apple's programs so I'm not in a position to post them, but if Apple would like to... Fred A. Huxham