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From: mcb@styx.UUCP (Michael C. Berch)
Newsgroups: net.micro.mac
Subject: Re: Reed College maturity
Message-ID: <18753@styx.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 20-Jan-86 19:39:18 EST
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Posted: Mon Jan 20 19:39:18 1986
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Reply-To: mcb@styx.UUCP (Michael C. Berch)
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Organization: Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, Livermore, CA
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Summary: Shame on you, Nathan Myers!

In article <21100021@orstcs.UUCP> nathan@orstcs.UUCP (nathan) writes:
> While we're on the subject of excessive net traffic, it seems a good time
> to discuss the behavior of people at Reed College.
> 
> Specifically, the Mac community's first contact with them (that I know
> about) was the distribution of a fraudulently-labelled stolen copy of
> Lonnie Abelbeck's VersaTerm product.

So what? Are you going to tar everyone in the Mac group with the same
brush because somebody made a mistake? Never mind that Reed dealt with
the situation in a mature manner.

> Since then, we've seen at least a megabyte of piddly, useless programs and
> desk accessories written in Rascal.  It may be that Rascal itself is a 
> useful product, but the evidence so far is that its primary function is
> to consume net bandwidth for the aggrandizement of Reed students.

This is offensive. Perhaps YOU find the Rascal material "piddly" and
"useless".  Even though we do not plan to use Rascal, the source code
examples were illuminating and worthwhile, rather more so than the
Nth version of some binhexed utility. [I'm not knocking those, either!]

> To the people at Reed: I'm sorry to come down on you so hard.  Perhaps you
> could check with disinterested others to make sure your stuff is 
> worth posting before you do so.
> 
> 				Nathan C. Myers
> 				hp-pcd!orstcs!nathan

As a "disinterested other", I think that Mr. Myers owes both Reed
College and the Usenet/ARPANET Macintosh community an apology, and I
hope it is a sincere one. If I were at Reed I could imagine saying to
my self, "If these @#$#%holes don't appreciate the postings, I'll take
them elsewhere." And that, Mr. Myers, would be a disservice to the
network.

Michael C. Berch
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