Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site hpda.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!qantel!hplabs!hpda!on From: on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: You only help him...... Message-ID: <1290@hpda.UUCP> Date: Wed, 15-Jan-86 12:11:28 EST Article-I.D.: hpda.1290 Posted: Wed Jan 15 12:11:28 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jan-86 07:32:34 EST References: <405@decwrl.DEC.COM> Reply-To: on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Cupertino, CA Lines: 34 >In article <405@decwrl.DEC.COM> dm_johnson@manana.DEC writes: >I've only somewhat recently joined motss and have seen that Ken uses the >same technique here. He protests that all he really wants is dialogue >and the chance to learn from others. In reality, he phrases his >communications in such a manner that he closes communication before it >ever gets started. Then as people, in anger, spit and sputter towards >him he can act cooly and logically, getting reinforcement that he is ok >and "they" are not. And isn't it strange that when Ken gets a dose of his own medicine by someone , he ignores them. I make a point of replying to most all of Kens postings (I do it in private mail because if you reply to ken on the net you get a flood of mail from those who don't want us to get him all worked up!.) and Ken never seems to find time to reply to ME?? I make a point of telling ken that I think he's OK even if he does come across as a bigot and a bully. perhaps its not the kind of reinforcemnet he wants, or that he might not be able to remain cool and logical . > >So the content is not so important but the process is. Why else would >one hang around a group with a philosophy so diametrically opposed to >his own. Why else would one harass ( or bait) from the relative safety >of a terminal rather than face to face. Why else would someone be so out >of touch with feelings and heavily involved with logic. This is actually on of the points I have brought up to Ken! Why else indeed, could it be that the philosophy of motss is only diametrically opposed to the stance Ken takes to the outside world? could it be that these contradictory lifestyles play out there battle within Ken and all we are seeing is the fallout ?? Could it be that Kens terrorism is an elaborate mechanism to keep himself in line. LUX .. on