Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uiucdcsb Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucdcsb!midkiff From: midkiff@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: responsibility, sensitivity, (a Message-ID: <21200011@uiucdcsb> Date: Fri, 17-Jan-86 15:41:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsb.21200011 Posted: Fri Jan 17 15:41:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 21-Jan-86 07:03:42 EST References: <4@unisoft.UUCP> Lines: 29 Nf-ID: #R:unisoft.UUCP:4:uiucdcsb:21200011:000:1381 Nf-From: uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU!midkiff Jan 17 14:41:00 1986 /* Written 10:42 pm Jan 16, 1986 by gmk@uicsl.UUCP in uiucdcsb:net.motss */ /* ---------- "Re: responsibility, sensitivity, (a" ---------- */ Not quite. Turing was persecuted during the McCarthy era for his homosexuality (security risk, etc.). The government tried to ``turn him around'' with hormone injections ... /* End of text from uiucdcsb:net.motss */ What does the former US Senator from Wisconsin have to do with this? Turing died in 1953 in England, as a citizen of England. McCarthy began his rabid anti-communism in 1952, and was effectively stopped with his censure by the US Senate in 1954. His targets were the US State Department and the US Army, and not the faculties of english universities. If the 'government' did try to "turn him around", it was the Queen's government, not the US government. I have never heard or seen any evidence that McCarthy either held a cabinet or parliamentary position in the government of England. This is not a defense of either McCarthy or his tactics. I just can't see any purpose in blaming X for the actions of Y. Follow-ups to this should probably be in net.politics, not net.motss (although the fact that McCarthy's chief council was thought to be homosexual by many, and was shameless persecuted by the liberal press, might qualify it for inclusion here. :-) .) Sam Midkiff {ihnp4 | pur-ee}|uiucdcs!midkiff