Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Canadian accents (/aw/ & /ay/) Message-ID: <770@spar.UUCP> Date: Mon, 13-Jan-86 04:42:08 EST Article-I.D.: spar.770 Posted: Mon Jan 13 04:42:08 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 14-Jan-86 06:14:49 EST References: <2487@amdahl.UUCP> <8275@ucla-cs.ARPA> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Distribution: net Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 30 >When a Canadian pronounces "ou" followed by an unvoiced consonant, the >diphthong starts with a different vowel sound. Various speakers may use >the "o" of "hoser", the "u" of "but", or even a stressed version of the >normally unstressed "schwa" or neutral vowel. When the first part of >the "ou" diphthong is the "o" sound, the result sounds very much like >the American long "o" -- the "Bob&Doug" pronunciation of "out", out of >context, is almost indistinguishable from the American "oat". > >Something similar happens to long "i" as well. > Can anyone shed light as to the distribution of this regionalism? >-- Rich Wales In Virginia, between Williamsburg and Petersburg "out" is frequently pronounced as you describe, almost like "oat", especially by those claiming descent from the 19th century president Tyler (a very common name in those parts, apparently he produced many offspring). The effect of this Virginia regionalism was not unpleasant; in fact it could be quite elegant, almost aristocratic, in a southern fashion. As in Canadian, "i" of "kite" was not so noticeably peculiar. Another topic: why is it "Canadian"? After all, that would imply that the name of the country is "Canadia"! "Canadan" is much more logical. Too late now, I suppose.. -michael