Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site milano.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!caip!im4u!milano!wex From: wex@milano.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Arguments against murder Message-ID: <464@milano.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Jan-86 15:18:20 EST Article-I.D.: milano.464 Posted: Thu Jan 16 15:18:20 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jan-86 03:28:35 EST References: <1100@oddjob.UUCP> <1730@druxu.UUCP> <1101@oddjob.UUCP> <1110@oddjob.UUCP> Sender: wex@milano.UUCP Distribution: na Organization: MCC, Austin, TX Lines: 24 Adrian and I are approaching convergence. A summary of Adrian's position (as I see it): 1)I have certain likes and disklikes and wish to maximize the former and minimize the latter (utilitarianism or hedonism). 2)I regard my values as good, in a moral sense. 3)I believe that people, as a general rule, have characteristics that I like, and that are beneficial to me. 4)I believe that my values are held by other people, or I may impose my values on them if they hold values that contradict 1 (global utilitarianism). It seems clear that 1+2+3 adds up to a moral imperative for Adrian not to kill people. But without 4, I do not see how this imperative can apply to others, provided that they disagree with specifics of 1 or 3. Is it reasonable to pursue the discussion on this basis? I believe that I can provide strong arguments against 4, and somewhat weaker arguments against 1, 2 and 3 (in specific cases). --Alan Wexelblat -- ARPA: WEX@MCC.ARPA UUCP: ...ut-sally!im4u!milano!wex