Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!cca!inmet!nrh From: nrh@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <7800875@inmet.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-Jan-86 22:19:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.7800875 Posted: Fri Jan 3 22:19:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Jan-86 20:46:47 EST References: <294@frog.UUCP> Lines: 27 Nf-ID: #R:frog:-29400:inmet:7800875:000:1373 Nf-From: inmet!nrh Jan 3 22:19:00 1986 There's been some implication that libertarians and others who oppose the seat belt laws on grounds of personal freedom are, by opposing this law, somehow suggesting that people should not wear seat belts. How many times must these folks be told? Here's Frederic Bastiat from his essay "The Law", written in 1850: Socialism, like the ancient political ideology from which it emanates, confuses government with society. That is why, every time that we do not want a thing to be done by the government, the socialists conclude that we do not want that thing to be done at all. We are opposed to state education; hence, we are opposed to all education. We object to a state religion; hence, we do not want any religion at all. We are against an equality imposed by the state; hence, we are opposed to equality; etc., etc. It is as if they accused us of not wanting men to eat, because we oppose the cultivation of grain by the state. Let me forestall a few objections: First, I am not calling anyone a socialist -- Bastiat was answering the pre-Marx socialists of his day (different from the socialists of our day) and in the process made clear an important distinction. Second, I do not now accuse any specific person of the confusion between government and society (though it's certainly been a fruitful source of confusion on the net in the past).