Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh Message-ID: <981@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-Jan-86 11:24:49 EST Article-I.D.: mmintl.981 Posted: Fri Jan 3 11:24:49 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Jan-86 06:46:09 EST References: <306@frog.UUCP> <1864@uwmacc.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 22 In article <1864@uwmacc.UUCP> myers@uwmacc.UUCP (Latitudinarian Lobster) writes: >> No. We know more than that. We know that Ho Chi Minh was >> already a committed communist and that he betrayed people who >> were stupid or unlucky enough to collaborate with him. >> Those allegedly far-sighted advisors needed glasses badly. > >Ah, now we come to the heart of the matter -- knee-jerk anti-communism. This is knee-jerk anti-communism, but it isn't the heart of the matter. How about a response to my point: why don't know what Ho Chi Minh would have built without American and French opposition, but we do know what he actually built. Speculation about what would have happened otherwise is just that: pure speculation. George Washington and the rest of our founding fathers faced comparable opposition in setting up the United States. (The war lasted six years instead of thirty.) They did a much better job of setting up a decent government -- and they didn't have any other successful models to emulate. Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108