Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!cramer From: cramer@sun.uucp (Sam Cramer) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Seein' Red and God? Message-ID: <3119@sun.uucp> Date: Sun, 5-Jan-86 14:05:27 EST Article-I.D.: sun.3119 Posted: Sun Jan 5 14:05:27 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Jan-86 20:45:33 EST References: <125@drutx.UUCP> <463@whuts.UUCP> Reply-To: cramer@sun.UUCP (Sam Cramer) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 20 In article <463@whuts.UUCP> orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) writes: >> >> "The enemy is the communist system itself - implacable, insatiable, >> unceasing in its drive for world domination. This ... is a struggle >> for supremacy between two conflicting ideologies: freedom under God >> vs. ruthless godless tyranny." -- John F. Kennedy >> >> David Olson > >Interesting. I thought the usual religious belief was either >everyone was under God or nobody was. What was meant is clear. The choice is between ideologies that recognize that there are moral (God-inspired) limits to the power of the state, and ideologies which recognize no higher authority than the state and act accordingly. Communism is the example *par excellence* of the latter. Sam Cramer sun!cramer