Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cylixd.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!akgub!cylixd!charli From: charli@cylixd.UUCP (Charli Phillips) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: "Reds" vs "fascists":Reagan's remarks Message-ID: <661@cylixd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 6-Jan-86 14:28:46 EST Article-I.D.: cylixd.661 Posted: Mon Jan 6 14:28:46 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 8-Jan-86 19:49:09 EST References: <1783@teddy.UUCP> <39000044@ISM780B.UUCP> <449@whuts.UUCP> <351@cisden.UUCP> <459@whuts.UUCP> Reply-To: charli@cylixd.UUCP (Charli Phillips) Organization: RCA Cylix Communications , Memphis, TN Lines: 24 Summary: >Fr. Woolley, I maintain my consistency in opposition to war and violence >by anyone whether it is the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan or the >French and American invasion of Indochina. Reagan does not. > tim sevener whuxn!orb Tim, I'm not certain that a consistent opposition to "war and violence by anyone" is a sound moral position, and I'm not even sure that it is yours. Let's take a couple of cases - WWII and the Ukranian famine. (I'm even giving you the benefit of hindsight and history here.) Would you have opposed the use of war and violence had the French and British invaded Germany to stop Hitler? Would you have opposed the use of war and violence to stop the Ukranian famine? If you answer no to either question, then you are not consistent in opposing "war and violence by anyone;" like Reagan and most of the rest of us, you oppose them selectively. So now, if you answered no to either question, you might want to explain the grounds on which *you* oppose the use of war and the grounds on which *you* would support it. And, Tim, if you are a true pacifist and sincerely oppose all war and violence, I'll gladly apologize for doubting your statement. (And I'll likely have some other questions, as well.) regards, Charli