Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuts.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuts!orb From: orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: re: Edwin Meese Message-ID: <465@whuts.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 10:12:52 EST Article-I.D.: whuts.465 Posted: Tue Jan 7 10:12:52 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 8-Jan-86 19:49:21 EST References: <130@drutx.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 35 > [] > > >Meese has also claimed that the Bill of Rights does not apply to the > >States. All libertarians on this network should be outraged at this > >contention - without the protection of the Bill of Rights you can kiss > >our civil liberties goodbye. > > If Meese is out to dismantle the Bill of Rights, then he deserves contempt. > But, while he may not have been prudent in making such a statement, he > was not altogether incorrect. The First Amendment of the U. S. Constiution > starts out with, "Congress shall make no law ...". This is the U. S. > Congress; no such restriction is mentioned here concerning the State > level. If you want protection at the State level, then you should use > what is provided in the Constitution of that state. > > > tim sevener whuxn!orb > David Olson That is not true, Dave. The 14th Amendment provided that the rights afforded by the Bill of Rights and the 14th amendment itself would apply to *all Americans* irrespective of State. The reason is quite obvious - if there were not such a provision then the slaveowning states who had just been forced back into the Union by a bloody Civil War would have simply relegislated slavery back into existence. Is this what Edwin Meese wants? If Ed Meese wants to go back to the *original* Constitution before the Civil War, before amendments, before women had the right to vote then he is being the crassest reactionary. The Constitution is a living document which has been amended to extend democracy and citizens rights in its almost 200 year existence. It is contemptuous of what the Constitution stands for to try to turn back the clock to when rights were systematically denied to blacks and women. Worst about Meese's interpretation is that the Bill of Rights could be denied to *all* by his logic. tim sevener whuxn!orb