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From: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Redbaiting and Bad Guys
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Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 15:11:54 EST
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Posted: Tue Jan  7 15:11:54 1986
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Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes)
Organization: U. of Chicago, Computer Science Dept.
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Summary: The cosmic struggle between good and evil

>It's easy, Mr. Carnes.  If they're Marxists, they're Bad Guys.  There
>may be some humane, enlightened, or constructive policies they
>follow, but they're still Bad Guys.  

I'm glad that at least one person has grasped the basic principle of
dividing people into Good and Bad.  One reason for so doing is that
it provides a parsimonious and easily understood explanation for all
the conflicts raging in the world.  Good people will always be in
conflict with evil people.  In all of the world's conflicts, it is
possible to discern a good side and a bad side.  Some examples:

GOOD					BAD

Afghan rebels				Soviet invaders
Black South Africans			White South Africans
Israel					PLO
America 				Soviet Union
America					Libya
Some Lebanese				Rest of Lebanese
Britain					Argentina
South Vietnam				North Vietnam
Allies					Axis
Christians				Infidels
Greeks					Trojans
Humans					Vampires

and so on.

>Would you be pleased if the changes taking place in Nicaragua were
>taking place in YOUR home state?  If not, then the people running the
>Marxist states are Bad Guys -- regardless of the fact that the Czar,
>Chiang Kai-shek, Batista and Somoza were also Bad Guys.  

Wouldn't it be simpler to ask the Nicaraguans themselves if they are
pleased with the various changes that have taken place in their
country?  I don't know the answer, but it is either Yes or No.  In
any case, you display a thorough grasp of the Good Guy/Bad Guy
Dichotomy Principle.  

>The people of these countries are not guinea pigs, for use in some
>Grand Experiment to show how a New System can build a New Socialist
>Man.  They are human beings just like you and me, and if WE wouldn't
>like to live under such an experiment, THEY shouldn't have to,
>either.  

How disgusting that the Sandinistas are using the Nicaraguans as
guinea pigs -- just like Auschwitz.  How different from the Founding
Fathers, who when drafting the Constitution wisely contented
themselves with copying the time-tested features of European
political systems, instead of trying anything new and experimental.
-- 
Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes