Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!seismo!cmcl2!csd2!sykora From: sykora@csd2.UUCP (Michael Sykora) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Seein' Red and God? Message-ID: <3630046@csd2.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 10:09:00 EST Article-I.D.: csd2.3630046 Posted: Tue Jan 7 10:09:00 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Jan-86 17:50:01 EST References: <463@whuts.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 21 >/* cramer@sun.uucp (Sam Cramer) / 2:05 pm Jan 5, 1986 */ >The choice is between ideologies that recognize that there are moral >(God-inspired) limits to the power of the state, and ideologies which >recognize no higher authority than the state and act accordingly. >Communism is the example *par excellence* of the latter. > >Sam Cramer sun!cramer Indeed, this is how the choice is perceived. I believe the true choice is between the political system that benefits men the most -- a system based on individual liberty and property rights, and one that benefits them much less -- a system based on the primacy of society over individuals within and without that society. What does the god stuff have to do with this, anyway? It only clouds the issue. Mike Sykora