Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!cramer From: cramer@sun.uucp (Sam Cramer) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Seein' Red and God? Message-ID: <3122@sun.uucp> Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 21:02:44 EST Article-I.D.: sun.3122 Posted: Tue Jan 7 21:02:44 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Jan-86 17:50:44 EST References: <125@drutx.UUCP> <463@whuts.UUCP> <3119@sun.uucp> <1528@ihlpg.UUCP> Reply-To: cramer@sun.UUCP (Sam Cramer) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 23 In article <1528@ihlpg.UUCP> tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) writes: >> [Sam Cramer] >> >> The choice is between ideologies that recognize that there are moral >> (God-inspired) limits to the power of the state, and ideologies which > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> recognize no higher authority than the state and act accordingly. >> Communism is the example *par excellence* of the latter. >----- >A question for Sam Cramer: > In which category is Iran? The barbarous theocratic regime in Iran, while guilty of horrendous crimes, does recognize limits to it's own behaviour - those outlined in the Koran. While I'm not a big fan of that book, there is an important theoretical (and, I think, practical) difference between Khomeiniism and communism, which, rejecting "bourgeois morality", recognizes no limits to it's behaviour. For those who are interested, there is a good discussion of this issue in "Modern Times" by Paul Johnson (available in paperback at finer bookstores nationwide, as they say). Sam Cramer {decwrl,hplabs}!sun!cramer