Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site decwrl.DEC.COM Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!ucbvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-bach!mahoney From: mahoney@bach.DEC Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Is America a Democracy Message-ID: <349@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: Thu, 9-Jan-86 10:35:04 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.349 Posted: Thu Jan 9 10:35:04 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Jan-86 14:44:58 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 44 -------------------- mail dated 7-JAN-1986 20:49--------------------- >---- > No, it doesn't. The president is elected by the people. The president >is also commander and chief of the armed forces. Democracy does not mean >that the people make the decisions directly. > The U. S. constitution does give Congress the sole power to declare war. >It can be legitimately argued that undeclared wars such as Korea and Vietnam >are unconstitutional. This has no bearing on whether the U. S. is a democracy. >If Reagan unilaterally decided to push the button tomorrow, we will all be >dead, and Reagan will have become the greatest mass murderer in history, but >the U. S. will still have been a democracy. >-- >Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL ihnp4!ihlpg!tan Mr Tanenbaum Democracy does mean the the people make the decisions directly. The best represenative of a democarcy in the US is New England Town Meetings. The people by direct vote make the policy decisions for the town. The US is a republic or as the term now in vougue repersenative democracy. The reason the term democracy is used is that men like Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt thought that democracy sounded better then rebublic. (They being democrats and all). I feel even the term represenative democracy is misleading remember what the name of the army during the civil war The Grand Army of the Republic. We have freedoms and so forth but freedoms do not make you a democracy direct control of decision making is what makes you a democracy. We the people do not have direct control we elect represenatives to make decisions for us. We have indirect control and thus we are a republic. One of the big reasons for moving away from the term reublic I think is that most of your communist countries use it. We don't want people to be confused. :-) I agree with you when you say what the presidents do has no bearing on what type of government the US is. They obviously are acting in an unconstitutional manner as such those presidents should have been removed but that is neither here nor there now. Brian Mahoney