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Subject: Re: Seein' Red and God?
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Bill Tanenbaum makes a good point regarding communism as tyranny.  It
is an observable fact that most communist countries also have totalitarian
governments, although this connection is not a *necessary* feature of
communism.  There were utopian communities in the US and there are
collective communes in Israel (Kibbutzim) which omitted the totalitarian
element.  Iran is totalitarian, even though the government is run by
the country's religious leader.  By the same token, democracies can
countenance tyranny, too.  Both ancient Greece and the US permitted
slavery.  Oppression is where you find it.  Ask any chld.  --Barry Kort