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From: orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER)
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Subject: re: Death to baby killers, NOW!
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Date: Tue, 14-Jan-86 09:53:15 EST
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Posted: Tue Jan 14 09:53:15 1986
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> > Micheal Lewis (afb@bucc-i) says:
> 
> >    I think the time has come for the US to stop pussy-footing around with 
> >the Khadaffy regime.  Let's stop bothering with calls for diplomatic and 
> >economic sanctions against Libya.  Khadaffy has been a major world hemmorhoid
> >for long enough.  We have an aircraft carrier there and the Israelis would be
> >more than happy (I'm sure) to help.  No need to reduce Tripoli to a heap of
> >radioactive slag, just take out the palace, the terrorist training camps, and
> >their army and air force, and let the Libyans sort out the mess.
> 
> >    I'd like to see Khadaffy "harrass the American people in their own
> > streets" from the rubble of his obliterated palace.
> >
> >     The only thing that has kept us from doing this already (I think) is 
> >concern for a tenuous (at best) "Middle East Peace Process".  There will *never*
> >be peace in the Middle East as long as that psychotic butcher of the innocent in
> >Tripoli is alive.
> 
>  I second the motion. This guy Quadaffi is pure evil scum. Above plan
> sounds fine to me. I hope Reagan has the same idea.
> -- 
> Name: Gary Kremen
 
1)provide the evidence that Libya actually supported Abu Nydal.
  The Reagan administration has yet to provide it.  Austria, the country
  which was the *victim* of the attack, has stated that they will join
  sanctions *when solid evidence is presented to prove any country's 
  support*.  The Austrian government says it has yet to see such evidence.
  The only "evidence" we have is Reagan's claim that he "knows" but can't
  say what his evidence is.  Given that the Reagan administration has
  provided fabrications in the past, such as the argument that bee feces
  were evidence of "Yellow Rain" chemical warfare, such evidence which
  *cannot be revealed* hardly seems convincing.
 
2)South Africa some months ago blew up two Gulf oil refineries in Angola.
  The South African forces were caught in the act and the South African
  government admitted to the bombing.  Were there calls for assassinating
  P.W. Botha and obliterating his reprehensible apartheid regime?
  The South African government is currently illegally occupying one
  country (Namibia) and openly launching attacks against Angola and
  Mozambique.  Surely this qualifies as a *genuine* threat to regional
  security in Southern Africa.  Has Reagan called for absolute sanctions
  against South Africa until it leaves Namibia? Of course not.
 
3)Some time ago there *was* a terrorist attack *in the capitol of the
  United States*.  It was the bombing of a former member of the Chilean
  government under Allende by Pinochet's police forces.  Did we hear
  anxious calls to "blow up Pinochet"?
 
4)While Reagan and the American media wail against terrorism conducted
  by the "enemy" they *never even mention* our own support for
  terrorist campaigns against innocent civilians in Nicaragua and now
  (thanks to Jerry Falwell, Jack Kemp and friends) in Angola.
  Yet there was an interesting letter in the NYTimes (Jan. 9) from
  Edgar Chamorro, a former leader of the contras who quit in disgust.
  Here is an interesting statement he made in his letter:
     
       "It is cynical to assert that the "contras" respect
        human rights.  During my four years as a "contra"
        director it was premeditated policy to terrorize
        civilian noncombatants to prevent them from cooperating
        with the Government.  Hundreds of civilian murders,
        mutilations, tortures and rapes were committed in pursuit
        of this policy, of which the "contra" leaders and their
        CIA superiors were well aware."
 
  It is an undisputed fact that the CIA mined Nicaragua's harbor.
  Moreover in 1984 the CIA manual advising the contras on how to go
  about conducting political assassinations, sabotage and campaigns
  of terror was uncovered and conceded by Wm Casey to be a CIA
  production.  Thus Chamorro has backing for his statement that:
       
       "When I joined the FDN in 1981, I hoped it would be
        controlled by Nicaraguans and dedicated to objectives
        we would determine.  But the "contras" were, and are,
        a proxy army controlled by the US government."
 

Michael and Gary, my conclusion is that you have been duped by the
Reagan administration which seeks to exploit *certain* acts of
terrorism for its own political ends.  The media has fallen right
in step with Reagan's approach without a falter.
 
Yes, I think we *must* oppose terrorism and the massacre of
innocent civilians anywhere it occurs.  Whether Libya was behind
the latest bombings there is no doubt that they have provided
support for terrorist organizations.  But it is the grossest hypocrisy
to say that it is *wrong* for Libya to support terrorists but
perfectly acceptable for *us* to do so.  Moreover it is an
incredible bias on the part of the media to *fail to even mention
this hypocrisy*!  When Pinochet bombs his enemy on the streets of
Washington, D.C. this is just as *wrong* as Khaddafy shooting his
enemies on the streets of London.  But which hits the headlines
as "exported terrorism"?
 
*THINK* for god's sake before salivating for flesh and carnage.
                  tim sevener  whuxn!orb