Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!ittvax!aouriri From: aouriri@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP (Chedley Aouriri) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Libya, Syria, Israel,... Message-ID: <573@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Jan-86 18:20:56 EST Article-I.D.: ittvax.573 Posted: Thu Jan 16 18:20:56 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jan-86 17:45:16 EST References: <70@mit-vax.UUCP> Organization: ITT-ATC, Shelton Ct. Lines: 89 [] In reply to Oded Feingold's posting: > > True, Libya may have helped with a little misdirection [passports > lifted from Tunisian spies last summer], but the point of departure was > Lebanon, and the guiding force and source of arms was SYRIA. The lifted passports did not belong to Tunisian spies; they have been confiscated from Tunisian workers in Libya. > So why doesn't the US attack Syria? Two reasons: > Syria is closely allied with the > USSR, and an attack on her can be expected to call down a heavy Soviet > response. You can certainly assert that Israel is closer allied with the USA, than Syria is with the USSR. That's why Syria did not attack Israel. > 2. The Syrians are playing Americans against themselves, So are the Israelis: they scramble their lobbies and the american jewish organizations (which are under their direct control) and major segments of the mass media to denounce and overturn any action taken by the US, if they perceive it as against their short term interest or emotions (Remember Awacs, Bitburg, The memo of understanding,....) And of course, on the other hand, they are right on time every fiscal year to get billions of dollars of never-to-be-repaid loans, grants, military assistance,.... > 4. If you believe Noam Chomsky, Israel WANTS her opponents to be > fanatical terrorists - that buys political leverage for her [genocidal? > theocratic? terroristic? nuclear-crazy? foolish? cute? slave to > American dictates?] policies at home and abroad. Why cut off the flow > of wonderful homicidal maniacs and lose that great source of internal > public acquiescence, that great excuse for American military aid, that > terrific supply of popular sympathy in Europe and among the dirt farmers You do not have to believe anybody to find out what Israel wants. Just look at cold facts: Israel wants to get rid of the palestinians, because it took their homeland to set up its state. Short of exterminating them (some israeli politicians dream loudly about that), Israel decided that there is no palestinian problem. But the rest of the world does not buy it. So, Israel settled to the lesser false equation : Palestinians = PLO = Terrorists. Whenever peace talks start to tackle the palestinian problem, Israel performs a "military surgical strike" against some palestinian camp, triggering reprisal terrorist actions, and derailing the peace process. You can check the chronology of all israeli attacks to confirm this. The latest being the raid on PLO quarters in Tunis, which has been performed at the very moment, almost to the hour_ when King Hussein was visiting Washington, trying to convince the US government of the necessity of including representative palestinians in peace talks with Israel. The result of that raid is well known: reprisal terrorist actions, the Achille Lauro, Abu-el-Abbas, Abu-Nidhal,...and most important to the Israelis, no more talk about peace process, or settlment of the palestinian problem. Since Israel cannot come to terms with the fact that there is a palestinian people who has the inalienable right to live sovereign in its homeland, Israel resorts to all kinds of tricks in the bag and off the bag to deny the existence of the problem. Actually, it is in Israel's own long term interest to settle the palestinian problem and live in peace with its neighbours. Because if in the short term Israel can count on the US support and protection, it is foolish for Israel to count on it forever (ask the south vietnamese!). > The US is going to scream and yell (at Libya -- that's safe: Not at > Syria or the USSR) and everybody except the terminally brain-softened > ============================== Libya or Syria are not russian allies or puppets; they are just clever at playing the russian card against the american card, and vice-versa. Actually, Khaddafy, and to a lesser extent Assad, are staunch strong anti-communists. (Have you read Khaddafy's little green book? It reminds you of Mc-Carthy's speeches). The late egyptian president Sadate also played well the american vs the russian political game to leverage his position. __________________________________ Chedley Aouriri ITT-ATC, Shelton , CT. ...ittatc!ittvax!aouriri