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From: brandx@ihlpl.UUCP (H. D. Weisberg)
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Subject: Re: Libya, Syria, Israel,...
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Date: Sun, 19-Jan-86 20:58:25 EST
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Chedley says:
> 
> So are the Israelis: they scramble their lobbies and the american
> jewish organizations (which are under their direct control) and
> major segments of the mass media to denounce and overturn any
> action taken by the US, if they perceive it as against their short
> term interest or emotions (Remember Awacs, Bitburg, The memo of
> understanding,....)
If you refer to AWACS, Bitburg as "short term interest or emotion"
than you are demonstrating your ignorance.  AWACS are not a short
term concern.  I expect both Israel and Saudi Arabia to be around 
for a while and therefore they are LONG term concerns.
And of course you can't understand that Bitburg is much more than
an emotional issue. 
> 
> You do not have to believe anybody to find out what Israel wants.
> Just look at cold facts: Israel wants to get rid of the
> palestinians, because it took their homeland to set up its state.
You would love to believe that this is the case.  It is NOT.
Israel does not want to get rid of the Palestinians and is doing her
best to ensure that Kahane never gets the chance to have any clout
behind his ideas.  Israel "took" noone's homeland.  There's no sense
getting into another debate about that.
You are trying to spread fallacies that the Arab world wants everyone
to believe.  
The fact is that the Palestinians want to get rid of the Jews.  Ask
Arafat if he condemns the airport attacks he says "yes" but that it's
ok to do such things in "occupied Palestine".  Ask him to define
"occupied Palestine" and he refuses.  He means all of Israel.  No wonder
he won't recognize Israel.  Do you recognize Israel or do you mimmick
Arafat?
> Short of exterminating them (some israeli politicians dream loudly
> about that), Israel decided that there is no palestinian problem.
> 
> But the rest of the world does not buy it. So, Israel settled to
> the lesser false equation : Palestinians = PLO = Terrorists.
What the rest of the world buys is oil.
> The result of that raid is well known: reprisal terrorist actions,
> the Achille Lauro, Abu-el-Abbas, Abu-Nidhal,...and most important
> to the Israelis, no more talk about peace process, or settlment of
> the palestinian problem.
I guess Arafat deemed Abu Nidhal his personal protector.  Are you
trying to say that Nidhal has taken protection of the PLO as one of
his causes or is it just an excuse.  You can add Rome and Vienna to
your list (is that what "..." stands for?).  Are you saying that the
"reprisals" are justified?
> 
> Since Israel cannot come to terms with the fact that there is a
> palestinian people who has the inalienable right to live sovereign
> in its homeland, Israel resorts to all kinds of tricks in the bag
> and off the bag to deny the existence of the problem.
Tell us about pre-1967 Palestinian sovereignity.  Where was Palestine
before then?