Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuts.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!whuxl!whuts!orb From: orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: re: Death to baby killers, NOW! Message-ID: <499@whuts.UUCP> Date: Wed, 22-Jan-86 10:13:15 EST Article-I.D.: whuts.499 Posted: Wed Jan 22 10:13:15 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Jan-86 22:35:19 EST References: Upon request <202@aero.ARPA> <483@whuts.UUCP> <1566@ihlpg.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 61 Here is a response to another of Bill Tannenbaums replies to my article on terrorism: > --- > > 4)While Reagan and the American media wail against terrorism conducted > > by the "enemy" they *never even mention* our own support for > > terrorist campaigns against innocent civilians in Nicaragua and now > > (thanks to Jerry Falwell, Jack Kemp and friends) in Angola. > > Yet there was an interesting letter in the NYTimes (Jan. 9) from > > Edgar Chamorro, a former leader of the contras who quit in disgust. > > Here is an interesting statement he made in his letter: > > [Long anti-Contra stuff omitted] > --- > There are civil wars going on in Nicaragua and Angola. Innocent civilians > always suffer in civil wars. One cannot fault the U.S. for the one in Angola. > The U. S. is a major instigator of the one in Nicaragua. All this is totally > irrelevent to Kaddafi. Terrorism in Nicaragua is a byproduct of civil war. By this argument, Bill, the Soviets planting of booby-trapped toys to kill children in Afghanistan, is perfectly alright since it is simply a matter of "civil war" in Afghanistan. I do not buy this argument. Afghanistan has been blatantly invaded by the Soviet Union and Nicaragua's "civil war" is an invasion by proxy by the United States. Innocent civilians are killed by these "civil wars" subsidized by both superpowers just as much as they are killed by random acts of terrorism subsidized by other governments. The reason however that most Americans don't care if innocent civilians are killed in these random acts of violence in other countries paid for by their government is that they see little likelihood that *they* will be killed. So long as the killings can be kept to other countries not much frequented by Americans then it is somehow less noteworthy. However when *Americans* become the victims of nations' striving for power then suddenly it becomes "terrorism" and something which the rest of the world "must stop". The major distinction which I see in the killing of innocent civilians occurring in Nicaragua and Afghanistan and the killing of innocent civilians in Rome and Vienna is that the latter case happened to involve some Americans. We can see how blatantly "terrorism" has been defined by Reagan and the media as "killing of Americans" in the shooting of four American military advisers in El Salvador by the guerillas. This killing of Americans who are advising the Salvadorans on how to bomb and terrorize that segment of the population opposed to the government was labelled as another "terrorist" act which required "reprisals" by Ronald Reagan and George Schultz. The media simply picked up their charges and dutifully repeated them as it parrots every other piece of nonsense coming from the government. Were these American *military* advisers even close to being any sort of "innocent civilians"? Of course not. Yet they were Americans who were killed by those defined as our "enemy" so therefore they were more "victims of terrorism". I never heard a question raised by the mainstream media about whether it made any sense whatsoever to consider these American military advisers "innocent civilians" and victims of "terrorism". For this reason I refuse to accept the equation being foisted upon us by the media that "killing of Americans by enemies" == terrorism while "killing of Third World civilians" == civil war That distinction is sheer hypocrisy and doublethink. tim sevener whuxn!orb