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From: aouriri@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP (Chedley Aouriri)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Sam's anti-anti-semitic canards
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Date: Wed, 22-Jan-86 17:09:50 EST
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Sam Cramer writes:
> Recently Chedley Aouriri drudged up a few anti-semitic canards for
> us:
> 
> > So are the Israelis: they scramble their lobbies and the american
> > jewish organizations (which are under their direct control) and
> > major segments of the mass media to denounce and overturn any
> > action taken by the US....
> 
> In other words:
> 
> 1.  The American Jewish organizations are directly controlled by the
>     Israelis and act against US interests.
> 
> 2.  The Jews control the media.
> 
> If Chedley wants to retain any credibility among net.politics readers, he 
> should retract these statements and apologize for these antisemitic lies.
> 

These statements are yours as you infered them from my posting. So,
I do not see why I should reassert or retract statements which are
not mine in the first place. 
However, may I comment on them?

Your Statement 1 is over stating the case, but is basically true.
Would you deny the fact that the israelis have a big influence, to
say the least, on American Jewish Organizations? That they (the
israelis) use those organizations to reach and influence public
-and not so public- opinions in the US about political matters Israel
deems important.? If you deny this, please say so.

Your statement 2 is an inference many drawed after reading and
listening to news editorials during the israeli invasion of 
Lebanon in 1982, editorials claiming that Israel's bombardement and
blockade of West-Beirut was an act of self-defense!!

NOTE : The label "anti-semitic" is ab-used. Whenever someone says
something which does not fit your pro-israeli views, you just
stick it on him, regardless of the merit of the argument. Handy,
indeed! 

Chedley Aouriri
ITT-ATC, Shelton, CT.
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