Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittatc!decvax!cca!inmet!nrh From: nrh@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: The free market (and lemons) Message-ID: <28200535@inmet.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-Jan-86 00:56:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.28200535 Posted: Wed Jan 8 00:56:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Jan-86 14:43:44 EST References: <849@mmintl.UUCP> Lines: 36 Nf-ID: #R:mmintl:-84900:inmet:28200535:000:1683 Nf-From: inmet!nrh Jan 8 00:56:00 1986 Two points, in response to Frank Adams: 1. My understanding is that there were non-government-funded roads throughout New England in the early 1800s, but that farmers prevailed upon the legislatures to provide them with more and better roads. I would have preferred paying the higher vegetable prices to giving the IRS more to work with, but wasn't consulted. 2. I've also seen articles about the electronic gadget for vehicle billing. My understanding was that some Asian nation was going to use it to bill people for using the main roads into town during rush hour. The gadget took the form of a plate attached to the bottom of a car that was somehow readable by a senor embedded in the road. The car doesn't have to stop or even slow down, as I recall. Bills were to be issued monthly, I think. The idea was to "tax" folks for using the streets during rush hour, and thus hold down the traffic to the impatient and the wealthy. It's not hard to see how a private road owner would require cash payment or such a gadget before permitting someone to ride on his road (it would be easy to detect a car with no plate, and lower a parking-lot gate 100+ feet in front of it while hooting warnings. One could then collect the fare (in cash) at the gate. Naturally cars that knew they had to pay cash would ordinarily go in separate lanes. By the way, it's not an obvious threat to civil liberties, unless no-name, cash-in-advance accounts, and pay-as-you-go usage are forbidden. 3. There are reasonable road systems around that are privately owned but restricted in use -- logging roads are like this, and road rallies are often held on them.