Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittatc!decvax!cca!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: defining racism -- Laura on compassi Message-ID: <28200531@inmet.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 23:00:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.28200531 Posted: Tue Jan 7 23:00:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Jan-86 21:28:15 EST References: <336@l5.UUCP> Lines: 36 Nf-ID: #R:l5:-33600:inmet:28200531:000:1676 Nf-From: inmet!janw Jan 7 23:00:00 1986 [carnes@gargoyle] >>The *opposite* kind of racial screening is >>widely practiced (the affirmative action). I agree that this is a >>racist practice; but it does not proceed from a racist *atti- >>tude*. I don't believe, though, that this is "most" or most >>dangerous form of, racism. >Affirmative action programs are a form of >discrimination, and it is matter for debate whether such >discrimination is justifiable or not, but to call affirmative action >"racism" shows a stronger attachment to emotion-clouded rhetoric than >to clear thinking. I have often been surprised by the way many >netters sling around terms like "racism" to score debaters' points >without, apparently, understanding what the terms mean. > [definition from Britannica] OK, I plead guilty of using the word "racism" with a nondic- tionary meaning, not guilty of the motives you ascribe to me. Fact is, I used it in the same sense as my opponent (Tony Wuersch), so it wasn't a ploy on my part to score debating points. As for "emotion-clouded rhetoric", that would only make sense if the word "racism" carried different emotional connotations than "racial discrimination" which you admit affirmative action is. To me it certainly doesn't. The concept I needed was very broad - namely, any hostile action or attitude towards anyone, based on their race. Racism seemed to fit, but I'll respect Britannica and desist from using it, using "bigotry" for attitude and "discrimi- nation" for behavior. The whole article you object to is very easy to rewrite with this substitution; it is not dependent in any way on the objectionable term. Jan Wasilewsky