Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!cca!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Laws of Libertaria Message-ID: <28200587@inmet.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-Jan-86 20:57:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.28200587 Posted: Sun Jan 12 20:57:00 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Jan-86 22:33:24 EST References: <28200585@inmet.UUCP> Lines: 61 Nf-ID: #R:inmet:28200585:inmet:28200587:000:2929 Nf-From: inmet!janw Jan 12 20:57:00 1986 [Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh] >> You are quite right that arbitration doesn't work when one of >> the parties is powerless. This is a point that needed to be made. >Not generally powerless: powerless with respect to one party at one >particular time is all that is necessary. Sure: but, in an interdependent society, one kind of power at one place can be negotiated into another kind of power in another place. I once wrote a senator about a dissident friend of mine in Russia, and got a very helpful reply. The point of this is, he wasn't a senator from *my* state; and certainly not a senator from Russia; there are hardly any Soviet immigrants in his state, too. But being helpful *may* help him indirectly, some day. This is how it works in democracy, for which I have two cheers. >So then how does an aggreived but "powerless" party get satisfac- >tion in your libertaria? Two sides should be discerned in this question: the *mechanisms* of getting satisfaction; and the *motive force* activating these mechanisms. E.g., in our society, the Congress, the press, the lobbies etc. are the machinery through which the *interests* of, say, polluters and anti-polluters work. What you need to get satisfaction is a *coalition* of interests; and you need *structure* so that the interests can coalesce. The *kind* of structure can vary. Libertaria is not supposed to be structureless. It would have its institutions. The difference between it and status quo is that no institution has an artificial *monopoly* on the functions it is supposed to serve. The advantages are many. Competition is an incentive for the institution to *really* serve the supposed function. Thus, even where de facto there is a monopoly (a natural monopoly) it works better and is sensitive to customers. Old institutions that don't fit new needs (and societal change is likely to accelerate dramatically, led by technology), will disappear with little fuss . Completely new institutions can be invented and implemented with no permission from anyone. Where no natural monopoly exists, variety of needs will be met by variety of institutions. The monopoly that existing structures of government exercise takes two forms: they forcibly *preempt* resourses of society, so that it cannot afford an alternative set of institutions; and they forcibly *prevent* these institutions from functioning. Funding of public schools and licencing of teachers are the ex- amples of these two sides of monopoly. In justice and police protection, it is much more complete. Back to your question: seemingly powerless people get satisfac- tion, in democracy *or* Libertaria, by being members of coali- tions. *That* is not the difference between the two social orders. The *mechanisms* the coalitions use *would* be different. They would be more flexible and diverse. Jan Wasilewsky