Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Politics and Ethics--Socialism, Message-ID: <902@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Jan-86 16:23:06 EST Article-I.D.: cybvax0.902 Posted: Thu Jan 23 16:23:06 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Jan-86 09:45:37 EST References: <486@whuts.UUCP> <101500008@uiucdcs> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 22 Summary: In article <101500008@uiucdcs> renner@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU writes: > > If a few people control most of the income and the wealth and most > > people control nothing then only the wants of the wealthy will be > > measured by the market. This is one of the worst flaws of laissez > > faire economics. > > -- tim sevener (orb@whuts) > > If a few people control most of the income and wealth, then in practice > *any* political system will cater to the wants of these people. This > is unavoidable. A "free market" is no better and no worse than anything > else in this situation. The market is not a political system, because income and wealth are only components of power. Political systems need not cater to the wealthy: they need to cater to the sources of their power. That's the whole idea behind democracies (or democratic republics): the recognition that there is real power in mere numbers. Because poor men can kill rich men: it may not be an even ratio, but the worse it gets, the better the chances of the poor. -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh