Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2.fluke 9/24/84; site vax1.fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!lowell From: lowell@fluke.UUCP (Lowell Skoog) Newsgroups: net.rec.ski Subject: Re: X-C ski equipment (climbing skins) Message-ID: <1349@vax1.fluke.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-Jan-86 16:50:34 EST Article-I.D.: vax1.1349 Posted: Wed Jan 8 16:50:34 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Jan-86 07:33:23 EST References: <1937@zehntel.UUCP> <431@amiga.amiga.UUCP> <1294@ames.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 34 > .... any tips for the novice on use of skins ? In the Cascades, most people start using skins as soon as they get off the beaten trails and out of the flat valleys. With the changeable snow around here and the generally rough terrain, skins perform much better than wax. On most backcountry trips, you are either going up a big hill or coming down one, so the extra time needed to install and remove the skins is paid off by their increased efficiency. If you aren't climbing much, they aren't necessary. For nordic skis, the best skins available seem to be the adhesive kind. Since they don't shift around, and snow can't build up between the skin and the ski, they offer the highest performance. This is especially noticeable when you are traversing on firm snow. A strap-on skin can be very tricky in these conditions. Unfortunately, you run the risk of having the adhesive fail, so most skiers carry some adhesive tape as a backup. There are some flexible plastic strap-on skins (Snake-Skin brand?) which I think are much cheaper. You get what you pay for, though, and they don't glide or climb as well. For alpine skis, adhesive skins are not such a clear winner, because there are good strap-ons available. These are the Vinersa type (European), which use a system of metal and rubber clips to strap around the ski. Unfortunately, they are probably the most expensive skins around, and they are hard to find (in Seattle at least). The thing I like about them is that they are absolutely reliable--the metal clip cannot be cut by your edges and they always work, no matter how wet or grimy your ski bases get. They also go on and off faster than the adhesives, an advantage if you are yo-yoing up and down some hill to take ski runs. They do shift a little, and can get snow build-up, but for me this is outweighed by the advantages already mentioned. Lowell Skoog Seattle, Washington