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From: cramer@sun.uucp (Sam Cramer)
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Subject: Re: "Islamic Tolerance": textual sources
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Date: Sat, 11-Jan-86 23:43:00 EST
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Concerning anti-Jewish quotes from the Koran, Nidhal writes:

>  1) " Believers , take neither the Jews or Christians for your
> friends ..."   Qur'an according to Matt Rosenblatt...
> The Arabic word that he ( or he "translation") translates as
> "friends" is "awleah," which means "rulers and protectors,"
> not friends ( then it makes sense .) 

Well, I'm not up on classical Arabic, but either way you read it,
it sounds pretty bad - either you can't have Jews or Christians as
friends or you can't have them as rulers.  The latter may explain 
some of the source of Moslem hostility toward Israel - it appears 
from this quote that it is unacceptable to Moslems that non-Moslems 
rule over them.

Here are few more fun quotes from the Koran and the "hadith" 
(accounts of the sayings and deeds of Mohammed and his companions):

	"Thou wilt surely find that the strongest in eminity against
	those who believe [Moslems] are the Jews and the idolators..."
	     	the Koran, sura V, verse 85

	 "A Jew will not be found alone with a Muslim without
	 plotting to kill him".
	 	Eight century hadith							
and, finally, a quote from an old friend:

	"The Koran says that the Jews are the Moslems' worst enemies."
		Muammar Qaddaddi

Sam Cramer	sun!cramer