Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ucbvax!spp From: spp@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (Stephen P Pope) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.legal,net.misc Subject: Re: Autodialing Falwell - a different perspective Message-ID: <11515@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Thu, 23-Jan-86 14:05:49 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.11515 Posted: Thu Jan 23 14:05:49 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Jan-86 22:04:16 EST References: <1225@mtuxo.UUCP> <11434@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <709@cylixd.UUCP> Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.religion:9013 net.legal:2780 net.misc:9194 There seems to be a couple of general misconceptions here. One, is that Falwell's fund raising operation primarily supports his "freedom of speech". Actually, it's the other way around. He uses his freedom of speech to support his fundraising. Only a teeny fraction of what he rakes in supports the TV appearances etc. He doesn't really make public how he spends his money, but presumably it supports Moral Majority type operations of all sorts, few of which fall under the first amendment. I'm not saying the guy shouldn't be allowed to operate. I'm just saying it's not a question of "freedom of speech". Second, is the idea that tying up his phone lines is not an act of civil disobedience. Civil disobedience is usually defined as "refusing to obey laws as a means of influencing a government". I contend that "authority" or "institution" can be substituted for "governement" here, and often is. In particular, when the institution has the strong backing of the government (subsidization in the case of Falwell). It's clear to me this is an act of civil disobedience, and just because you may not agree with the politics doesn't make it any less so. On a related subject, does anybody remember the GOP's organized, public effort to tie up the Democrat's fundraising phones during that telethon in 84? How does this compare legally/ethically to autodialing Falwell? Seems offhand like a more serious offense since it involved conspiracy. steve