Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lanl.ARPA Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!ut-sally!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!wkp From: wkp@lanl.ARPA Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Re: the location of the Temple Mount Message-ID: <36098@lanl.ARPA> Date: Mon, 6-Jan-86 22:45:31 EST Article-I.D.: lanl.36098 Posted: Mon Jan 6 22:45:31 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 8-Jan-86 19:55:16 EST References: <1486@ihlpg.UUCP> <3780117@csd2.UUCP> <1069@cvl.UUCP> <1511@ihlpg.UUCP> <1083@cvl.UUCP> Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 33 Anyone who believes that he can face the Temple Mount by living in New Jersey ought to try praying for common sense. Actually, our friends the Muslims worried about this in the tenth century quite a bit since they need to face Mecca five times a day. From their exhaustive calculations (which they themselves knew to be somewhat bogus) they invented many elements of planar and spherical trigonometry, and provided many important astronomical observations. The problem was this: from every point on the earth one can measure one's latitude and longitude from the stars (e.g., the North Star is within one minute of true north). Knowing the latitude and longitude of the Temple Mount (or, in the Muslim case--l'havdil--the qibla) within some degree of tolerance, one can construct a great circle from one's own position which may (if everything is perfect) PASS THROUGH the Temple Mount, but one's own line of sight is directed out into space, and not toward any place on earth. So, even if the earth were a perfect sphere, the concept of "facing" another point on the sphere is somewhat meaningless. But even defining "facing" to be "aligning one's line of sight along the great circle joining the two points" is unacceptable, since the earth is more correctly an oblate spheriod, and the definition of a "great circle" becomes ambiguous. In short, I believe that only Jews living in Eretz Yisrael, or at least in Jerusalem, can truly "face" the Temple Mount. Exiled Jews will always end up staring out into space. -- bill peter ihnp4!lanl!wkp