Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!bbnccv!bbncca!rrizzo From: rrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.motss Subject: Re: responsibility, sensitivity, (actually "Depression") Message-ID: <1666@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Fri, 10-Jan-86 09:55:07 EST Article-I.D.: bbncca.1666 Posted: Fri Jan 10 09:55:07 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 13-Jan-86 04:54:14 EST References: <4@unisoft.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.singles:9963 net.motss:2434 Turing killed himself as a result of depression after being given the "3rd degree" (criminal conviction and hormone treatments) for being openly gay. His downfall came not from any self-hatred or lack of awareness about his sexuality (on the contrary, he seems remarkably free of these for his time; see Andrew Hodges' excellent biography, ALAN TURING: THE ENIGMA), but from naivete about British homophobia. A friend of one of Turing's pickups broke in and robbed his apartment. Turing immediately reported the crime to the police, answered all their questions with candor, and bluntly stated (apparently expecting the cops would appreciate his forthrightness) that of course he way gay. Hearing that, the police arrested HIM, brought him to trial on some antisex law, convicted him, sentenced him to prison, but lifted incarceration if he would submit to injections of hormones. This medieval episode took place as recently as the early 1950s, a mere decade or so before the Wolfenden Report. You probably weren't aware of the details, but to say Turing killed himself because he couldn't deal with his homosexuality not only lets the culprits (the British authorities) off the hook, but lets them have the last word via a very ironic slander. Despite popular images of the English as epicene and historically addicted to homosexuality, the UK has been perhaps the most homophobic nation in Europe for many centuries. Louis Crompton's BYRON AND GREEK LOVE, a study of homophobia in early 19th century England, graphically describes just how harsh and paranoid the English were on the issue even amidst a period of political reforms and decrminalization on the continent. Cheers, Ron Rizzo