Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxf.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxf!features From: features@ihuxf.UUCP (aMAZon) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Mid-Life Crisis (really relationships) Message-ID: <2784@ihuxf.UUCP> Date: Tue, 21-Jan-86 13:12:14 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxf.2784 Posted: Tue Jan 21 13:12:14 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Jan-86 02:39:26 EST References: <481@ssc-vax.UUCP> <4170@mhuxd.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 72 Andy Cohill (ihnp4!mhuxd!amc) writes: > > Is it possible that we young professionals are so wrapped up in > > our careers, material things, and our work so as to neglect what is really > > important? (this is a rhetorical question) > ----- > > Glen Fujimori > > The answer is a resounding "YES!" Nearly everysingle woman I know > well (all in their mid to late thirties) is struggling with whether > to put family or career first. I have to report that careers are > winning, by at least two to one (about ten women in the sample). Of course, what rules do we have to play by in the workplace in order to stay even, let alone get ahead? Ought not the rules of work be changed to accomodate? Cottage industries, at least, are good for that. Both parents can stay home & watch the children. > Those that have chosen to start a family are trying to have a career > at the same time. Not a single one has decided to stay home... Talk about *starting* a family? Didn't they do that when they got married? All the weddings I've been to recently made it clear that the husband and wife *were* a new family, just by themselves. > To keep > the foam-at-the-mouth feminists happy, none of the men in these > relationships has offered to stay home, either (something I would be > willing to do, were I in that situation. (Andy, it's wonderful if you'd actually do it. I know too many men who say they would, yet when the babies arrive they barely know how to change a diaper.) > > Fact is, it is hard to meet women who even want a family. This I've got to respond to. I want a family. I am searching for family. I am building family. Of course your definition and mine on family may be different. I am an orphan, and an only child. Talk about being left alone! So I've got a lot of quasi- brothers and sisters, nieces & nephews. You know how hard it is to maintain such a network? Yet, for now, that's the best one I can find myself bonding to. It would sure make things simpler if all I had to do was maintain a strong relationship with one man, and whatever children we may have in our home. If I never arrive at that situation, then I'll have the friendships which I've devoted a lot of time & effort to (you know who you are!) > They all > want a career. Nothing wrong with that, except I tend to agree with > Glen. Boy, are these ladies going to be an unhappy bunch in about > twenty years. (Now I am going to get flamed). Some of my best women > friends categorically refuse even to "date", or whatever we call it > these days, preferring to concentrate on their career instead. Actually, I'd like to "date"; it's just that you take your average CS person who works a nominal 40-hour week (which is often more like 60), add school into the mix, throw in a couple of corollary organizations, and add the time to maintain existing friendships, and you don't have a whole lot of time left over. If he can feel that dating would mean leaning over my shoulder in the CS lab as I debug my latest homework, fine. BUT, Andy, realize this: If I didn't work, I wouldn't *have* a home to stay in. That's the curse of every self-supporting individual. I'd be happy to make the economic exchange...my labor in our household for his monetary support. It just hasn't happened yet, and I cannot wait for Prince Charming to show up without doing something to support myself in the meantime. Any advice now? -- aMAZon @ AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL; ihnp4!ihuxf!features *open to possibilities*