Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site ISM780B.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!cca!ISM780B!jimb From: jimb@ISM780B.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sport.football Subject: Fuel for Flames/OU & Conferences Message-ID: <30400015@ISM780B.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Jan-86 15:52:00 EST Article-I.D.: ISM780B.30400015 Posted: Tue Jan 7 15:52:00 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Jan-86 05:37:33 EST Lines: 109 Nf-ID: #N:ISM780B:30400015:000:5249 Nf-From: ISM780B!jimb Jan 7 15:52:00 1986 >How can you call Oklahoma's schedule this year patsy? I'm truly baffled. >**Seven** of their twelve opponents this season were bowl teams (three of >them played in New Year's Day bowls!). Half the teams in the Big Eight >went to bowls, and they all had good non-conference records. In all >fairness, you can't make a judgement of the strength of a conference based >on four games. Colorado came within two yards of beating Washington, and >the Nebraska-Michigan game could have gone either way. Even with Colorado's >loss to Washington, the Big Eight still topped the Pac 10 4-2 in head-to- >head matches this year. With 18 bowl games, LOTS of teams went to bowls. Half the teams in the Pac-10 and and six teams in the Big-10 also went. Could have, shmould have. Yeah, Colorado might have beaten Washington. On the other hand, Arizona could easily have beaten Georgia (it was a tie) and Arizona State could have easily beaten Arkansas (a one-point loss, a dropped pass that would have put them in field-goal range in the final seconds.) So the Pac-10 would have been 4-1, but then if pigs had wings they would fly. As for Penn St., a lot of narrow victories over mediocre competition like Temple contributed to their 11-0 record. (There! I can get another group annoyed at me.) >I'll be happy to have it decided on the field. You downplay Miami's >strength now because they lost to Tennessee, but I'm sure you're one of >those Sooner haters who would have been yelling that Miami got robbed if >they had won the bowl and not the national championship. Oklahoma's non-con >schedule in '86 is UCLA, Minnesota, at Miami, Texas, and possibly (??) >Michigan or Tennessee in the Kickoff Classic if they're invited and elect to >go. NOBODY would have a tougher schedule than that! No, I wouldn't have yelled that Miami got robbed. Now, I MIGHT have found a way to support a Michigan claim.....(:-}) I don't hate the Sooners; I just find them unforgiveably boring. I, too, look forward to the game next year. While the defenses are stuffing the run, the better passing attack will rule the day. (Hint: A team that passes three times a half isn't going to cut it.) You're right, it's a tough non-con schedule. > >OKLAHOMA IS #1 AND THE REST IS SOUR GRAPES! ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ ^ from which you're making a fine whine. > Dennis Doubleday > Univ. of Maryland >Perhaps this string of at-home games for Pac-10 teams ought to stop--- >let's have the next Rose Bowl in Soldier Field. Heh, heh. We'll see how >those California boys handle -20 wind chill. >Rich Kulawiec pur-ee!rsk purdue!rsk rsk@purdue-asc.arpa rsk@asc.purdue.edu Sure, and why don't you change the site of the Cotton/Sugar/Orange Bowls, too. It seems that only the Big-10 consistently chokes. Or maybe they are truly inferior? Soldier Field and associated weather has its points, though. I hope the Bears demolish the Rams. The arrogance of all the local yokels is unbelievable. (This California boy grew up in Evanston, five blocks from Lake Michigan, and the wind chill was -40 and the snow was this high and...) >i've had it. why does everyone think the big-8 is a weak conference?? Because they are? >OU had the highest rated defense *EVER*, against a tough schedule, ever >mention that? OUs nosegaurd was picked the best down lineman in the nation, >and linebacker bosworth won the first butkis award as the best linebacker. >murphy was ANOTHER all-american on defense. we are talking about the #1 >defens this year, and one of the best ever, by anyones yard-stick. and in >their last seven regular season games OU averaged 38 points a games. Yeah, and let's see what happens if they go up against a team that can pass. Let's see what happens when they go up against teams that don't live and die by the run. I believe in balanced teams. A good balanced team, with a good passing attack, will take OU apart. I look forward to seeing UCLA vs. OU next fall; it turns out turnover will be very low for both teams. You lose Casillas, UCLA loses Whalen. I predict UCLA will stuff the wishbone, the passing will open up OU's defense, and a balanced attack will and special teams will take OU apart. >only on the net will you hear how weak the big-8 is and how penn state was >superior to OU. net.footballers seem to know a LOT about rah-rah-rah my >conference is better, sis-boom-bah my team is better, but don't seem know >much about football beyond what they read in the campus newspapers. Nah, I thought Penn St. was inferior too. So I didn't think much of the Orange Bowl to begin with, and the game proved it. Borrrring. Oh, go ahead and get excited about the TD that OU scored in the last minute after Penn St. was demoralized. Does 25-10 feel that much better? Awww. By the way, I don't read campus newspapers; I've been out of school for over a decade now. I do read The Sporting News. > ron vaughn ...!ihnp4!ihdev!rjv -- from the bewildered musings of Jim Brunet {ihnp4, decvax}!ima!jimb (most reliable) ihnp4!vortex!ism780!jimb or jimb at ima/*cca-unix.arpa ^ this asterisk is necessary!