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From: jmh@ltuxa.UUCP (Jon M. Hanrath)
Newsgroups: net.sport.football
Subject: Re: The Raiders are out!
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Date: Thu, 9-Jan-86 08:36:51 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan  9 08:36:51 1986
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>shot or extra hit.  The Cowboys are one of the worst at this; the Jets,
>Packers, and Redskins have done their share of dirty work as well; remember
>Payton getting dumped over the bench by Green Bay a couple of months ago?
>
>-- 
>Rich Kulawiec pur-ee!rsk purdue!rsk rsk@purdue-asc.arpa rsk@asc.purdue.edu

I have a comment about the incident mentioned above.  First off:

1) I am an avid Packer fan
2) I WAS disappointed in some of the cheap shots the Packers took this
year, especially in that Packer-Bear game.
and
3) I am a Waltor Payton fan.

Now . . .  I watch the incident mentioned above, and I think that Payton
instigated the action.  He held Mark Lee as Lee was pushing him out of bounds,
and Lee retaliated.  Unfortunately for Lee, by the time he retaliated, both
players had run to the bench, which they then fell over.  Payton has such a
reputation that he could certainly never could have started something like
this, and the Chicagoland media was nuts over how bad the Packers were.  In
my opinion it was a classic "throw the flag and call two penalties" situation.
Payton, who is normally a reserved player, and an all-time great, got away
with one.  To throw Lee out of the game was absurd, as even the League office
admitted later that week.

The cheap shot by Ken Stills on Matt Suhey in the game was FAR more inexpensive
(cheap, I mean -:) ).  Stills deserved to be thrown from the game, but wasn't.
I'd be willing to bet if he had leveled Payton, he would have been thrown out.

Both teams got in their shares of cheap hits in the game, but at least the
media around here (Chicago) hyped only the Packer's hits.  I think possibly
the reverse could be true in  the Green Bay media.

Jon Hanrath
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