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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: net.startrek
Subject: Re: Klingon Dictionary
Message-ID: <966@psivax.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 14-Jan-86 11:02:34 EST
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Posted: Tue Jan 14 11:02:34 1986
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In article <608@riccb.UUCP> rjnoe@riccb.UUCP (Roger J. Noe) writes:
>> Also, has anyone seen/read Mark Okrand's recently-released "Klingon
>> Dictionary"?  It's a novel-length book going into phenomenal detail
>> about the syntax, structure, pronunciation rules, and grammar of
>> "Klingonese" he prepared for Treks 2 and 3.
>>
>
>I don't want to be picky, but I don't want people to be put off from reading
>Okrand's dictionary.  It's not nearly novel-length and it is fascinating.
>Apart from the bits and pieces of the language, there are several phrase
>translations in there that are quite interesting.  Virtually all of the
>Klingon phrases used in ST:TMP and ST:TSFS (that is, 1 and 3; no Klingons
>appeared in The Wrath of Khan) are there.  There are also some very funny
>phrases translated there, too.  Now I hope we get to see a Vulcan dictionary.
>--
        Well, this actually sounds quite decent! Especially as it
seems to be based on the actual presentation of the language in the
movies!
        There actually *is* a Vulcan dictionary - it is horrendous. The
language it presents has *no* relation to the Vulcanian language
fragments from either the series or the movies! It has *none* of the
gutteral consonants so prevalent in the filmed Vulcanian, and the
grammer is a rather obvious rip-off of Japanese! This in spite of
comments in the first chapter about the grammer being "different from
Earth languages"!!
        I almost wrote the Klingonese Dictionary off, expecting it to
be another rip-off like the Vulcan Dictionary!
--

                                Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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