Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ur-helheim.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!ur-helheim!dave From: dave@ur-helheim.UUCP (David F. Carlson) Newsgroups: net.wines Subject: Re: beer Message-ID: <425@ur-helheim.UUCP> Date: Mon, 6-Jan-86 09:18:45 EST Article-I.D.: ur-helhe.425 Posted: Mon Jan 6 09:18:45 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 10-Jan-86 05:00:33 EST References: <327@cisden.UUCP> <34100001@hpfcmp.UUCP> <11341@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <3718@kestrel.ARPA> Reply-To: dave@helheim.UUCP (David F. Carlson) Organization: U. of Rochester, EE Dept. Lines: 40 In article <3718@kestrel.ARPA> ttp@kestrel.ARPA writes: > >Enough discussion of whether or not there'll be a discussion about >beer! I'd like to hear comments about MacKewan's {sp?} Edinburgh Ale >What IS ale as opposed to beer? Why doesn't this one taste like any other ale I've >tasted? Alternatively, which other ales (or beers) are like this one? > >-tom Ale vs beer is a very old question. It used to be that brewing with hops was considered a bad thing. King Henry V (I believe) decreed on pain of prison death or worse that all beers brewed in England must not have any hops. In less repressive times people found out that the bittering of the hops produced more enjoyable beers, and there use was made virtually universal. Previous to hops, people used to put palatable things like nettles into beer. Originally, ales used to have less hops and thus be more full bodied and less bitter. Today that line is so confused as to be non-existent. Light beer, heavy ales, lagers, pilsners--who can tell? MacKewan's Edinburgh is a ale which is, as you say, sweet. In days of yore a greater amount of ales used to be sweet. (British stouts and ales of this variety reflect this.) In fact, mead, the "original" viking drink was made of honey--pretty sweet stuff. The sweet stouts and ales are made by including, at some stage of the brewing process, large quantities of unfermentable sugars--fructose or lactose, etc. are added, producing a curious taste to the uninitiated. yours for better beer dave btw: In my tenure on this net, beers and wine are welcome topics. So go ahead and post. -- "The Faster I Go the Behinder I Get" --Lewis Carroll Dave Carlson {allegra,seismo,decvax}!rochester!ur-valhalla!dave